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Checkup producer Anna-Liza Kozma shares her recipe for mincemeat pie, a favourite holiday dish.

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There are traditions we share. And then there are the traditions we impose on others. Things we insist on doing at this time of year despite all the odds.

It's true that my family enthusiastically embrace all the traditions involving chocolate coins, advent calendars and edible Saint Nicks - but the pleasures of homemade mincemeat is a harder sell.

I've persevered. Truth is it's become a source of pride to me to convert my friends and family to Christmas mince pies. Correction. It's an annual obsession.

Mincemeat making begins right after Halloween when people around my small town begin asking, "Have you finished your Christmas shopping yet?"

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I hate shopping, but what I do start to think about is making my mince pies. I scan grocery aisles and bulk bins for the juiciest sultanas, raisins and currants. Dried apricots, dates and prunes are in the mix too. Also preserve orange and lemon peel. And then there's a hunt for the freshest cinnamon and nutmeg. Gradually a dedicated drawer in my pantry fills up with ingredients and the scent of Christmas. I stock up on brandy, rum and Cointreau.

Christmas in a bowl

Then always quicker than you think, Stir Up Sunday sneaks up on us. This last Sunday before the season of Advent, a kind of liturgical countdown to Christmas, is traditionally the time bakers in Britain mix up their Christmas puddings and cakes.

As I work on Sundays producing Cross Country Checkup, I have a good excuse not to pull out my largest mixing bowl on the actual day. I usually think about it some more on the drive home listening to a podcast of the BBC radio soap The Archers where Stir up Sunday always gets a mention, and I picture a nation of cooks pouring packets of dried fruit and spices and stirring in generous glugs of booze.

Because really that's what mincemeat is. A vehicle for liquor and spice. Add fresh cranberries and chopped apple, lemon and orange zest with their juices and you have Christmas in a bowl as far as I'm concerned.

Instructions or recipe are loose terms. It's more the idea you're going for.

The actual recipes vary wildly. I have a wrinkled Sophie Grigson recipe cut out of the 1990's Sunday Times which bears the crucial phrase "this is good fairly recently made". What's nice about this recipe is its easy-going exhortation to experiment by adding chopped pears with walnuts, clementine with almonds or "whatever combination of fruit or nuts takes your fancy." I also pull out Nigella Lawson's equally luscious instructions for Cranberry studded mincemeat.

Instructions or recipe are loose terms when it comes to mincemeat. It's more the idea you're going for. It's what makes it an adventure every year. Or as my husband said wearily one year when I poured the last of his malt whisky, 'this isn't a hobby it's a lifestyle.'

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I cajole the kids into helping me chop and snip the dried apricots, prunes and cranberries and apples. Zesting the oranges and lemons and squeezing the juice out is another task that goes better with company. There's that moment when the kitchen table is sticky with raisins and stained with cranberry juice. Carols are belting from the iPad and the house is full of the alchemy of lemon and orange, cinnamon, clove, grated nutmeg and hopes for Christmas holidays.

Suet or not

Then we usually have an argument over the suet. My teenager daughter runs screaming out of the kitchen at the first mention of this key ingredient. Most recipes require some kind of fat. Suet, most often grated beef fat is the traditional choice. Back in Elizabethan times, Christmas mince pies were actually made with minced lamb or beef, with fruit added as a preservative. The meat fat balances out the sweetness and adds a luscious creaminess. Also in its favour, suet has a higher melting point than its substitutes of butter or grated coconut cream. I usually go with suet to the annoyance of half my family, but one year I may try something else.

After the suet, I stir in a selection of booze – brandy and Cointreau usually – but rum or whisky is good too. Then the whole enormous mess is stuck in the fridge to marinate.

This is where things get a bit weird. I find myself waking up in the night craving that luscious smell. I sneak down to check on it. I pull out the bowl, stir it and breath in the heady scent. Sometimes I grate in a bit more nutmeg. I sample some of the mixture. At this stage it always smells better than it tastes.

Bits of suet glisten against dark raisins and you can still distinguish the individual fruits in the hodgepodge of ingredients. In fact the word pie originates from the word pica, Latin for"magpie," maybe because the ingredients in a pie resemble the randomly collected objects of a magpie.

Cradle shaped-pies were outlawed as "idolatry in crust"

After a few days – or a week or whenever I have a few hours spare – I pull out the baking tins and make the actual pies because I expend so much energy on the filling, the pastry is often an afterthought.

Some years I buy lumps of dough from my local bakery that rolls out effortlessly. This is important because my best pies aren't round. They are rectangular, baked in mini loaf pans.

According to my favourite historian of Christmas, Gerry Bowler, mince pies are not just delicious they are full of symbolism. The original mince pies were oblong crib shapes decorated with a baby Jesus on top. The contents represent the gifts of the Magi to the Christ child, spices and plump middle eastern fruits. In the 1640's in England, Scotland and Ireland, the Puritans banned Christmas and everything related to the holiday. "They even found time to outlaw the mince pie as 'idolatry in crust'," explains Gerry Bowler in his wonderful The World Encyclopedia of Christmas.

Like me, those Elizabethan bakers found making mince pies too seductive to give up. They began making them in conventional round shapes, disguised like other pies so they could still share them with like-minded neighbours without being hauled off to jail by Oliver Cromwell's soldiers for celebrating popish ways. Gerry Bowler says the lattice work on top of so many of our pie crusts is a remnant of this Christian cradle symbolism.

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A ghost as Baby Jesus

Finding a baby Jesus cookie cutter can be tricky. The best we've come up with is a small ghost shaped cutter from Halloween which makes a sweet looking, swaddling-clothed baby.

As I only have one large tin for the cradles I always round out my batch with a tray of regular round pies, usually topped with pastry stars and brushed with milk or beaten egg. I make dozens and dozens of batches in the days leading up to and beyond Christmas.

There's not much that brings me more pleasure than someone saying, "I've never liked mince pies before. But I like these."

And once a friend waved a half-bitten baby Jesus in the air, with crumbs spilling from her mouth and exclaimed, "This tastes like Christmas." And that's the holy grail of mince meat.

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FAQs

What do mince pies symbolize? ›

The Early Origins. The history of mince pies can be traced back to the Middle Ages. During this time, mince pies were known as "Christmas pies" and were filled with a mixture of minced meat, fruits, and spices. These pies were often shaped like a manger to symbolize the birth of Jesus.

What is the superstition about mince pies? ›

One superstition from the middle ages suggests that if you eat a mince pie every day from Christmas day to Twelfth Night (evening of the 5th January) you will be guaranteed happiness for the next 12 months mmmm!

Why did Oliver Cromwell outlaw mince pies? ›

The tradition comes from the time of Oliver Cromwell in the 1650s, when mince pies were banned at Christmas, along with other tasty treats. Cromwell wanted to tackle gluttony in England. He also argued that Christmas contained too many superstitions of the Roman Catholic Church, which he hated.

What is the story behind mince pies? ›

Many believe the idea for the mince pie originated with Middle Eastern cuisine in the 12th century, when spices and fruit were often used in savory and sweet meat dishes. Before refrigeration, spices and sugars were used for preservation to slow down spoilage.

What does mince pies mean slang? ›

Mince pies = eyes

Her eyes would be described as Minces, an even more slang term from the original mince pies.

What is the meaning of mincemeat pie? ›

A mince pie (also mincemeat pie in North America, and fruit mince pie in Australia and New Zealand) is a sweet pie of English origin filled with mincemeat, being a mixture of fruit, spices and suet. The pies are traditionally served during the Christmas season in much of the English-speaking world.

What is the pagan origin of mince pies? ›

In any case, meat and fruit were invariably included among the ingredients. Going back even further, however, there are some who believe mincemeat pie is based on an ancient pagan tradition of serving coffin-shaped cakes representing Osiris—the Egyptian god who, according to legend, died and was resurrected each year.

What is the tradition of eating the 12 mince pies? ›

They became a popular treat around the festive period thanks to a tradition from the middle ages, which saw people eat a mince pie for 12 days from Christmas day to Twelfth Night. Doing this was believed to bring you happiness for the next 12 months.

What is the etiquette for mince pies? ›

Going on to how one should formally eat a mince pie, she explains: 'One would pick up the mince pie with a thumb and first finger, and lift [it] away from the plate. 'The mince pie is crumbly, so make sure anything that falls from the mince pie falls onto your plate.

Are mince pies still banned? ›

Oliver Cromwell banned mince pies and other Christmas treats in the 1650's in order to tackle gluttony. The ban didn't survive for long and the act of eating mince pies is now just a myth.

Are mince pies religious? ›

Soon dough effigies of the baby Jesus were placed on top of the pies to reinforce the religious connection. It's a myth that Christmas and mince pies were banned by Oliver Cromwell and reinstated at the Restoration, but some seventeenth century Puritans did frown on any such 'idolatrous' depictions of sacred figures.

What religion was Oliver Cromwell? ›

Cromwell was a Puritan. Puritans were Protestants who wanted to purify the Church of England of Roman Catholic practices. They believed that the Church of England was too similar to the Roman Catholic Church, and that the reformation was not complete until it became more protestant.

When did they stop putting meat in mincemeat pie? ›

By the 18th century it was more likely to be tongue or even tripe, and in the 19th century it was minced beef. It was not until the late Victorian period and early 20th Century that mince pies dropped the meat and had all fruit fillings (albeit with suet). Even today there are traditions associated with mince pies.

Why is mincemeat not meat? ›

The mincemeat filling we know and love today includes ingredients like finely chopped dried fruits, candied orange, spices, sugar and nuts. Its name dates back to 15th century England when mincemeat would actually contain meat, unlike today's version found in our beloved modern mince pies.

Do they eat mince pies in America? ›

Mincemeat pie is a dish that isn't very common in the American kitchen, which can lead to some confusion for cooks, even those on the Allrecipes staff.

What is the spiritual meaning of pies? ›

It represents union, love and comfort. When we think of pies, many think of them merely as a way to put on some weight or a gift to bring to a h oliday party. But p ies have been bringing people together since the time of the ancient Egyptians.

Why is mincemeat associated with Christmas? ›

According to my favourite historian of Christmas, Gerry Bowler, mince pies are not just delicious they are full of symbolism. The original mince pies were oblong crib shapes decorated with a baby Jesus on top. The contents represent the gifts of the Magi to the Christ child, spices and plump middle eastern fruits.

Why do we leave mince pies at Christmas? ›

During medieval times it was common to mix sweet and savoury ingredients. Honey and dried fruits were pricey and hard to come by so using them in your meals was a sign of wealth. This made spiced pies a special treat reserved for important occasions like Easter or Christmas.

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